Okay so I have Photoshop CS5, I use it for designing purposes mainly for Logo Designing.

But I find some logos too good and sometimes i see 3D logos, or logos like in which the buyer asks to make a cartoon character and people say to use Photoshop's pentool for it, I tried it but it doesn't work.

3D in Photoshop isn't the 3D I am looking for. Mainly you know i've heard the Vector is the type which people use to create Logos.

I don't find any Vector in Photoshop idk why.

I am trying to create logos like this:

Are these 2 logos made in Photoshop or Illustrator?